"claramag, Mustaco Master" (claramag)
08/31/2014 at 16:49 • Filed to: None
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"claramag, Mustaco Master" (claramag)
08/31/2014 at 16:49 • Filed to: None | 3
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If I told you how much crap this crummy three eight's been through, hard launches, low fluids, sustained time near redline, and all the misc crap, would you believe me if I told you factory internals w/ no ticks?
She's been unbelievably good to me. Now let's make it to 200xxx
More potato pix
ly2v8-Brian
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 16:54 |
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three eight as in Buick 3.8?
03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 16:56 |
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That's crazy. Hope my 4.6L will be just as strong.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> ly2v8-Brian
08/31/2014 at 16:57 |
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three eight as in ford's cheap knock off of the Buick 3.8 they developed back in the 80's
PS9
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 16:58 |
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You mean you wouldn't rather have timing chains that face the firewall and multiple tensioners that go out every 50k miles, requiring the whole bloody thing to be dropped and removed from the fucking car each time one needs replacing?
Birddog
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 17:03 |
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170k on the original head gaskets?!
You're doing it right.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
08/31/2014 at 17:05 |
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Don't know about the 4.6s in Mustangs, but a lot of those Crown Vic taxis are pushing well over 250xxx, 300xxx.
When I bought the 3.8L my more experienced dealer tech peers bemoaned me for not picking up the 4.6, mostly on the reliability front, saying the sixer was "reliable enough". Well who's reliable enough now Jimmy!?!?
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> Birddog
08/31/2014 at 17:09 |
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Thank you proper IMRC design implenented in post '99s
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> PS9
08/31/2014 at 17:12 |
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Someone forgot the K.I.S.S principle
ps what the hell is that?!
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Birddog
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 17:21 |
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Forgot about that. I think they redesigned the cat con on the driver side side too.
BlasterBob
> PS9
08/31/2014 at 17:23 |
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Replied to wrong post. D'oh!
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BlasterBob
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 17:24 |
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It's an Audi engine. I forget which one, but the existence of this picture is highly convenient for making points in conversation.
JGrabowMSt
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 17:31 |
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My Magnum is approaching 150k fast, the motor has never been opened that I know of. I need to pull the intake off, and I replaced the water pump in July, but I hope I never have a problem with the timing chain. I don't mind working on it, but it's not something I want to have to do.
My Neon however has seen similar abuse, but did have the timing belt done at 106k. I wasn't going to push that thing any farther than it needed to go.
Jedidiah
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 18:10 |
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Audi. Most likely out of an Allroad if it requires the subframe to be dropped.
Google "Audi Service Position." You won't be disappointed.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> JGrabowMSt
08/31/2014 at 18:11 |
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I like those magnums, worked on one once. That is not a comfortable bay to work in, but props to dodge for the v8 wagon
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> BlasterBob
08/31/2014 at 18:12 |
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Ah, Audi. The antithesis of simplicity
V8 Rustler
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 18:14 |
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Front SN95 Springs. PITA to get them in if you're running stock GT springs. But now I have my "custom" spring compressor tool that makes it very easy to install them.
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JGrabowMSt
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 18:16 |
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Well, honestly, if you take all the radiators out, you can do a lot of work really easily.
I'm a smaller person in general (5'8" and about 140lb) so I don't have trouble fitting around. I will say that the PCV valve is the PITA for me. I can reach and change the valve no trouble, but to look down into it for any buildup, I had to basically lay across the fender. If I were taller, it wouldn't have been so hard. If I were shorter, forget it. But it isn't hard to work on. The power steering pump is on my hit list for the next major work on it, and that's actually pretty easy to get to, and the serpentine belt is very easy to change, even with the fans in place.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 18:16 |
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Them some tall sumbitches
I am not terribly ashamed to admit I cut them (with upgraded shocks tho). lemme tell ya, made install WAY easier. Not as interesting as the springs I have out back tho...
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> Jedidiah
08/31/2014 at 18:19 |
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Sounds like a weird sex position
*looks up*
WTH how is that still a car?!
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> Jedidiah
08/31/2014 at 18:19 |
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I won't be disappointed, but I will be intimidated
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> Birddog
08/31/2014 at 18:31 |
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Minor details change over the years, but ~same t5 since the old fox 5.0s
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V8 Rustler
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 18:38 |
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The previous owner of my Mustang had the retarded idea to heat the springs to lower the car. This is the result:
(Left is a stock GT front spring.)
That's what happens when you heat a spring that is not compressed in a linear motion, because the Mustang has a MacPherson type suspension with the spring mounted on the LCA.
Here's a simple drawing I made.
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Birddog
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 18:48 |
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I remember guys doing that back in the 80s and 90s. Dumb.
Usually it resulted in a broken spring after a few thousand Chicagoland miles.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 18:56 |
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Nice draw up, I'd've shared if you hadn't already. I forget that heating springs is a thing. Never got why...not like cut springs are the best way or anything, but at least they retain their linear shape and (relative) structural integrity. But that is a terrifying looking front spring
I'm actually impressed at how the cuts are holding up, with appropriate Koni's. Out back I have springs from a...well actually I have no idea what they're really from. Bought a Cobra IRS a year or two back, ended up needing too much work that I didn't want to deal with (half shaft bearings were shot) but the dude threw in springs from what he said were from the same cobra. Dunno...they seemed too large, too tall, and had WAY too much force to them. Threw them in with a new SRA but had so much spring rate I had to cut them just for the sake of safety. Handles great now, coupled with a LSD makes for some alright drifts.
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V8 Rustler
> claramag, Mustaco Master
08/31/2014 at 19:24 |
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The issue with modifying springs, either with cutting or heating, is that they will loose their heat treatment and change their mechanical properties.
LSD is a must for any RWD car.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 19:37 |
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freaking srsly. Open diffs are the curse of cutting corners. What a shame, a world where my FWD corolla could smoke up a damn better pillar than the crapstang
(i miss that corolla. she could signal da choppa in my hands)
VincentMalamute-Kim
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 19:44 |
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"MacPherson type suspension with the spring mounted on the LCA."
I thought all MacPherson suspensions had the spring mounted on the body of the strut?
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> BlasterBob
08/31/2014 at 19:47 |
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That's gotta be the ubiquitous 4.2 L V8 that's in everything Audi makes. Impressive picture. It's not Audi's fault. It's because they're German.
Tensioners CANNOT possibly need replacing every 50K miles. That'd be nuts with that picture.
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V8 Rustler
> VincentMalamute-Kim
08/31/2014 at 20:01 |
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That's what Ford calls it.
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> V8 Rustler
08/31/2014 at 20:17 |
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Thanks for the info. Learned something new. Although I see they don't actually call it a MacPherson Strut. They call it a Hybrid MacPherson Strut with spring mounted etc etc. I think my premise of "all MP struts have springs mounted on the strut" is still holds.
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claramag, Mustaco Master
> VincentMalamute-Kim
08/31/2014 at 21:56 |
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The mustang's front suspension design always threw me off. I see them referred to as MacPhersons, but honestly whenever I think MacP I always think of the coilover looking things you see up front on economy cars. Spring and strut are mounted seperately, on different parts of the LCA